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Blue spy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 01:01:25 -
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Ridiculous!
This petition is an attempt by petty ideologues from both the Minmatar and Amarrian side of this debate to force a neutral financial entity whose purview is to oversee our markets for the betterment of all, to adopt a distinctively partisan stance for the benefit of some.
If the Amarrian holders want to be the only dealers in slaves they should compete on the free market like everybody else. What next? Should we ban all non-caldari missiles, or give the Federation a monopoly on soft-drinks because its culturally significant to them?
Keep your religion and politics out of my market! |
Blue spy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 01:23:10 -
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Nauplius wrote:Alizebeth Amalath wrote:
My concern is the sell orders from Greater Amarrian agencies. I have no illusions about being able to control SCC markets in outlaw territories.
Ban the sale of slaves to Empyreans in Amarr space and I shall travel to the vast slave markets of the Angel Cartel, buy 1,000,000 filthy Minmatar subhumans there, and sacrifice them all unto the glory of a holy and righteous God.
If we can band together and protect our free market it might never have to come to that. Support your local non-holder slave dealers, people. |
Blue spy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:49:57 -
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While I understand that this petition could have had a more likable list of opponents, I would like to encourage everybody here to at least attempt to understand exactly what Nauplius and Albizu are attempting to explain.
This petition is not a step forward in the abolition of slavery; nor will it result in any meaningful strides made in the welfare of slaves. What this petition will do is codify into law the divine right for Amarrian holders, and only Amarrian holders to engage in the practice of buying and selling slaves. I encourage any Minmatar and abolitionists here to look over this petition again, and ask yourself this question... "Why should we legitimise the Amarrian slave trade?"
This petition is not sacrosanct; it's an attempt to corner a market and muscle out external competition. There's no mercy or kindness in it so why humour it by treating this petition as if it is some kind of benevolent gesture above scrutiny? |
Blue spy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:28:22 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Blue spy wrote:What this petition will do is codify into law the divine right for Amarrian holders, and only Amarrian holders to engage in the practice of buying and selling slaves. No, it is not codifying a divine right, because that divine right already exists as law in Scripture. It is encouraging the enforcement of that law in SCC transactions. That law is already enforced in local Amarrian economic policies and has been for thousands of years. Holders are and have always been the sole legal owners of slaves in Amarr. We cannot allow foreign free markets to break down our traditions, especially with the kind of heretical consequences that have arisen from that erosion.
I was not aware that divine law factored into the day-to-day operations of the SCC. But while we are on the topic of Amarrian imperialism, what other steps can the cluster make to better accommodate to, and pander to the Amarr?
My arguement isn't about abolition. Whether you sign this petition or not; will make no difference to the wellbeing of the average slave. It won't save them from Nauplius he has the means, and resources to simply bypass the SCC entirely. Instead you're just guaranteeing and pandering to the belief of Amarrians that they have some god given right right to keep and own slaves. You're merely signing off to offer your support to that notion.
I would have thought thay any Minmatar worth his salt would rather chop his or her own hand off than bend the knee to the notion that Amarrians have the right to own slaves. |
Blue spy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:42:33 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Blue spy wrote:I was not aware that divine law factored into the day-to-day operations of the SCC. It should factor into all dealings by and with faithful citizens of Amarr, as it has in our economic policies for thousands of years and as was upheld in our previous trading agreements with the other empires. We are not asking the cluster. We are not asking CONCORD or the SCC to change their policies. We are asking our lords to enforce God's law on our people.
I apologise for reaching my conclusion rather rashly then. Any attempts by the Amarrians to limit their own market activities can count on my wholehearted support. |
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